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>> i talked with the prime minister of england. you say, calm don, dear. >> what have you learned? >> you definitely don't wear top hats to weddings. >> no. >> and joe is very good at playing the brash american in trafalgar square. >> you know what -- >> oh, boy. >> what about you? >> see chris in the corner. how many times do you think he told us we're working at 5:00 a.m. tomorrow? probably about ten. will we be there? >> 5:00 a.m. make sure you're there. willie, way too early, what time is it? >> "morning joe." see you tomorrow for the big wedding. stick around for "the daily rundown" with chuck todd and savannah guthrie. storms ravaged the south. at least 194 people are dead including more than 128 in alabama alone. a single massive tornado leveled
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much of tifk loouscaloosa. one of the deadliest in u.s. history. fears the death toll could continue to rise. also, the president proves what was already known. that he was born in hawaii, but does releasing his long form birth certificate silence doubters? if not, was it the right move? it's thursday, april 28, 2011. i'm chuck todd. hi there. >> hi. savannah guthrie. we have not sat here together in i don't know how long. >> feels like a month. >> good morning, everybody. good to see you. breaking news to start on the economy. the commerce department has just released its gdp numbers showing a sharp slowdown in the first three months of the year, as high gas prices really cut into consumer spending. so the gross domestic product, the economy growing, just at a rate of 1.8% from january to march. that's the worst showing since last spring. >> under 2, it's not growth. at that point it's not really growth. >> what you have is an economy a standstill and there are signs of hope and people were hoping 2011 would see the quarter up to
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3 and 4% growth. a real punch in the gut to america. >> as prices are a political problem for the president and they're a real financial problem for the american people. >> and they drag on in the economy no doubt. the other big story today. devastating storms wiped out parts of the south overnight. at least 194 people have died it across five states. home video shows this tornado that roared through tuscaloosa, alabama. the damage to the city there, described as catastrophic. this morning on "today" alabama governor expects the news to get worse. >> we activated 2,000 national guardsmen last night. most are those are in the field at the present time and so we're doing our search and rescue at the present time, and we hope that we don't find others, but i certainly suspect that we will. >> extensive damage reported across georgia and mississippi as well. scores of homes and businesses destroyed. the president released a
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statement, it reads in part, michelle and i send our deepest condolences to the families of those who lost their lives because of the tornadoes that have swept through alabama and the southeastern united states, and he has authorized emergency funding. let's get to nbc, live in tuscaloosa, alabama. good morning to you. what is the scene there? >> reporter: savannah, good morning to you. lives lost and turned upside-down, that's the story here in tuscaloosa. let's look here. we're at a major shopping area. this is the university area. we're not far away from the university of alabama. just about a half mile away from here. as you can see, the chevron station, just straight down the street here at the corner of 15th and mcfarland, and it just goes on all the way down as far as you can see. the amount of destruction here is kind of hard to describe, and that tornado, the storms basically moved along the i-59 corridor. the mayor of tuscaloosa said the infrastructure was absolutely decimated. that includes some of the police
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departments and fire departments as well. one of the communications tower, the major communication tower in tuscaloosa was damaged during the storm, and that hampered a lot of the response yesterday. they're still trying to assess the damage. people are now trying to get back to their homes, but the roads are very impassable because of downed trees and downed power lines. it's a very dangerous hardly any powerdeal with. it's very difficult at this point. talk about the numbers. more than 130 people right now confirmed dead in the state of alabama alone. more than 190 when you start incorporating the southern states and the regional areas here as well. so this storm, these tornadoes, just went through here, caused a lot of mass damage, and as we're seeing right now, as we're learning more as the sun comes up, a lot of deaths as well. savannah? >> do we see evidence of the federal response yet? i know overnight the president authorized immediate, declared
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an immediate emergency to authorize the use of federal folks, whether it's the national guard or other military being brought in. have you seen any evidence yet? >> reporter: not yet, chuck, and right now all we're seeing is basically local, county and state police as well. a lot of the emts are local. we haven't seen a whole lot of federal people, any of the federal presence that the president watsz tas talking abo. it's going to take time. can you imagine, a quick-moving storm, when tornadoes move through, takes time for people to assess where the resources are needed and what type of resources are needed in an emergency like this. right now we're only seeing local crews working the scene, and it's also very difficult because of what's happened to the infrastructure here as well. as the mayor indicated, a lot of the infrastructure, the buildings for the responders, for the police, fire department and mt emts was destroyed. it's hampered a lot of their response at this point. guys, back to you. >> in tuscaloosa, thanks very
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much. as we speak, this same weather system is actually moving now towards the northeast. nbc news meteorologist bill karins is tracking that system. bill, what's the latest on it, where's it at, and how much more devastating could it get? >> at the tail end of our three-day outbreak. we don't think we'll see anything today like we did yesterday. yesterday was just off the charts. we haven't seen a worse outbreak since 1974. the super tornado outbreak that killed over 300 people, and then you have to go all the way back to 1930s in alabama when 300 people died from a tornado. this is probably the second worst in alabama state history. so as far as what we're dealing with out there now, we do have a couple tornado warnings out, there but nothing too devastating. severe thunderstorm watch for areas of new jersey, pennsylvania, new york, still a tornado watch that includes baltimore and washington, d.c. as far as the worst of the storms, we had a tornado warning with a possible strong storm just cross interstate 70 heading up toward lancaster and another tornado warning that just expired in south carolina. bottom line is the worst of the damage has already been done,
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but i expect minor tree damage today. nothing like yesterday. yesterday, a historic rare day. one we probably won't see for decades to come. >> hope not. bill karins, nbc meteorologist. a biddy time for you. thank you. mississippi is one of the state's hard hit by yesterday's storms. 32 people have been reported dead after tornadoes moved through. more than half the state is reporting damage, and there are widespread power outages today. the governor has declared a state of emergency in more than three dozen counties, and we are joined now by mississippi senator roger wicker. senator, good morning. thank you for being with us. >> good morning, glad to be back with you. >> senator, tell us the situation in mississippi. what is the damage there? and are you getting the assistant you need? april sif >> we're going to get the assistance we need. today it's collection and making sure that our rescue people are out there and our law enforcement people get the
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information to the fema agency, and we'll do that, but thank you for pointing out how unprecedented this is subpoena we have . 50 hit yesterday, 32 dead. so it's an unprecedented event for our state, and we're reeling today. no question. >> senator, obviously, we invited you on to talk about a range of issues and wanted to get the update on folks in mississippi. appreciate that. want to turn a little to politics now. yesterday's events, in watching what the president did yesterday, i just simply want your reaction as to the point in time that we got into our political system where we had to see an event like yesterday. >> well, the president did a lot of things yesterday. i assume you're talking about his early morning press conference about the birth certificate. >> yes, sir. >> the thing i'm concerned about is the price of gasoline, which has gone steadily up for 37
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straight days, and it is a self-inflicted wound. you know what we had with the storms yesterday, there's nothing we could do about it, but pray and hope, but this is a -- what the administration is consciously doing as a matter of policy is produce less energy here in the united states. it's hurting our economy. >> i understand you want to -- >> that's the action that the president has taken. >> but you're aware that there are leaders inside the republican party, people who are sitting at the top of the poles. constantly made this an issue. is it time for folks like yourself to say quick the nonsense, quick the garbage and the conspiracy theories? >> i've never talked about it. never been interviewed about it. the issues, to me, as you point out, are other than that. the economy -- >> and just to be clear -- >> the -- three wars we're in an
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things of that nature. >> right. and we want to talk about other issues, too. you have not question or compunction about the president say he was born in this country? you believe that is the case. correct? >> i've never raised that question. >> let's turn to, you mentioned gas prices. i wonder what you think about the debate going on in washington right now about whether or not oil and gas companies should continue to receive subsidies through the tax code, the president, the administration, says it's about $4 billion in tax subsidies. would you like to see those tax subsidies taken away in order to save money at at time when the gats compa gas companies are recording report profits. do you agree with that? >> it's fine to have a debate about that, and i'd like to include also all the incentives we're giving for clean energy that amount to a cost to the treasury, too, but to me, to bring this up at a time when we're bumping up against $4 in
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mississippi per gallon, is really a matter of changing the subject. the tax laws as regard energy exploration were the same in january of 2009 when president obama took office, and the price of gasoline average around the country was less than $2 per gallon. so it's not tax policy. it's not the oil depletion allowance that is causing this. >> i guess what i'm confused about -- how is this -- >> -- change the subject. >> what is it that the president could have done about the price of gasoline? i mean, you have an issue with the federal reserve pumping money into the economy, and pumping more dollars into the world economy. you have global demand. you know, what -- is there any policy that could have been done that would have stopped $4 a gallon? there doesn't seem to be any expert that -- >> yes. i joined with 28 members of the
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senate just recently sending a message to it president asking him to quit slow-walking the permits. you know, we had the -- the gulf of mexico disaster last year. the president cut off drilling there. then he supposedly lifted the moratorium, but the process since then has been to slow-walk the permits. so there's hardly any new drilling that's going on in the gulf of mexico. if the president would take that action, and if we 0 would have a national energy policy of using the plentiful oil resources that we have here in the united states of america, it would do a lot to bring down the price of a barrel of oil worldwide and it would certainly help us here in the united states of america nap is the action that the president has failed to take in allowing us to get back to drilling our own oil. >> all right. senator roger wicker. we've got leave it there. we're out of time good to have
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you with us, sir, and, please, keep us posted on the situation in mississippi. our thoughts are with you. >> a tough day in mississippi. thank you. >> thank you for your time. >> thank you, sir. coming up next, the birth conspiracy too stubborn to die. the doubters got the evidence they needed to have. taking on the birthers, coming up. the latest on the deadly tornadoes that have torn up the south. killing more than 190 people. bigger than what hurricanes do and reducing buildings to rubble. fred is not over, we're tracking this historic storm. a look ahead at the president's schedule. big announcement with the security team when we return. you're watching "the daily rundown" on msnbc. [ male announcer ] from the first fire, perhaps every light since then has been leading up to this. advanced led technology from ge, lasting over 20 years with 75% less in energy costs.
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you could hear it coming. it was real loud. just a roaring, and then we could hear the house coming apart and things -- noises outside. >> devastation in alabama where the death toll now stands at 128. it is expected to rise. >> these tornadoes were spawned across the state yesterday. they drove residents into their basements. one formed live while weather channel meteorologist jeff morrow was on the air last night in birmingham. he's about 20 minutes west in pleasant grove, alabama, where search crews are starting to comb through the debris. >> believe it or not, this actually used to be somebody's house, which is completely collapsed here, as a lot of the debris that was farther up the hill came crashing into it. it all kind of collapsed down on itself, and a lot of it, then, blew on down the hill. there were several vehicles that were here as well that rolled on down the hill. one truck is on down the hill.
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they are pretty much a total loss. this is just some of the devastation here. now, the other, of course, sad story, the worst story of all is the number of fatalities that we have heard about. 128 of those right here in the state of alabama, and right around the birmingham area. anywhere from maybe 11 to 15 people, but, againing these numbers are fluid as more search and rescue continues to go on as we head on through the course of the day. the weather has cleared. the sun is back out, but it looks like it's going to be a long time cleaning up this mess. some of the worst damage we have seen in quite some time. back to you. >> just devastating. jeff morrow of the weather channel. up next, back to the birther don't. is it finally over? we can only hope. >> only hope. first the washington speak. appropriate. conspiracy theory. so many definitions, here's how wikipedia puts it. a term used exclusively to refer it a fringe story explaining a
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historical or current event as a result of a secret plot of conspirators of super human power and cunning. >> and i like joel's version of it in today's "washington post." joel has it this way, the nature of a conspiracy theory, that information must pass through a discerning yet simple filter, information that a confirmational is accepted that which is contradictory is rejected. there you have it, folks. >> cue the "x-files" music. >> or a nice conspiracy theory. send an e-mail to "daily rundown"@msnbc.com and mulder and scully get right on it. we'll be right back. time for your business entrepreneur of the week. derek and partner michael launched ggb of recall any 2007 with their first product. the world's largest gummi bear. since then, revenue for the novelty item surpassed $1
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so i knew that -- i knew i'd been born there. i remembered it. >> well, the president's tried everything. tried joking about it. jed used the release of his long form birth certificate as a teachable moment to remind the press and both parties that what we do in politics is not a reality show. after yesterday, could have fooled me. >> and what donald trump said, the latest peddler of his story. and with us, thank you both for being with us. i'll ask you, dee didi, would y have done the same thing and did they do it too late? >> the timing was open to discussion and we'll debate that in rooms like this for a long time. clearly, the president got ahead of it. his prerogative. when the thing gets here, put it out, i'm done. make my statement because they
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won't stop asking me about it until i talk and let's move on. >> somebody dignifies it, releasing the long form, you can argue, but did he need to come out to the briefing room? could he have just released the long form, wait until the next time asked about, because it added a level of spectacle when he came out. >> i hate to second guess my friends and colleagues at the white house now, but that's exactly right. not only did it elevate the whole issue put him hon a one-on-one on this crazy donald trump show morning. and got to debate directly with the president and declared victory. could have put out the paper and waited until the president was asked a question. that would have toned it down. i don't know if it would have ended it more quickly. >> apparently there was debate whether the president should come out and this stuff, and it was him. that he drove all of it.
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look at the politics of the day, the lead story in washington was, the paul ryan town halls that weren't going well. they got traction on something, and the president did just step on that story, he stepped on it with his foot, quashed it and kicked it to the curb, because this thing had become personal for him. >> yes. first of all, there's plenty of time for the paul ryan bill to blow up in the face of republicans. it looks like the senate is now going to take a hold on it and some senate republicans could be slitting their own throats that they vote to kill medicare, but i think the question is whether it was maybe too early to release this in terms of his political interests. this thing was a festering sore in the republican party. it was going to hurt them from now until the election. marginalize them as a party. marginalize anybody who touched it. you could say in political interests, smarter if they hadn't done this at all and kind of kept it goingish but in terms
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of a one-day story, i do this it was -- he figured why not just end this. you remember in the pennsylvania primary in 2008 at a certain point he got really annoyed personally about what he called petty distractions and actually went on the colbert report and, you know, said good-bye to petty distractions, trying to get them off the table. when dee dee was in government we had the luxury in the 1990s to deal with trivia. we don't have that luxury anymore. we have to deal with the serious issues. i think that's what he was trying to say. >> chuck said this, got quoted in the "new york times." how many easier to get this into the mainstream. that's what drove, other than irritation -- >> by jumping two the story the president managed to elevate it. press has been a sucker on this whole story. repeating it, repeating it. >> i'm sorry. you define press for me and i'll
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tell you whether we've been suckers for it, because we've sat here and had nothing to do but debunk it. at the same time, here you have a mainstream guy, donald trump, using it to appeal to the republican party. so an legitimates at the same time, got to explain it. >> talking about in the media. the genius of the tabloids. he understands the rhythm of tabloids, lived in the middle of it, he's not done. this story has more legs whether the president's transcripts in college we haven't seen the end of this story. >> you opened a can of worms, dee dee. she have to leave it there. thank you both so much. appreciate it. up next -- "daily rundown" interview way 2012 presidential candidate. we're going to tell you after the half hour who that is. >> showing his picture now. >> all right. >> maybe people don't recognize him. today's trivia question, which member of congress got his first taste of politics as boy
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in an effort to give you the best network possible. at&t. rethink possible. bottom of the hour. a quick look at what's driving today. breaking story today. violent storms left at least 213 people dead across five states yesterday. alabama, hardest hit. at least 131 killed, the death toll still rising. the severe weather now moved on and it threatens much of the east coast today. president obama is expected to announce his new national security team today. cia chiefly-on-panetta will replace the retiring defense secretary david gates and general david petraeus moves from the battlefield to the cia. in addition, a former ambassador to iraq, ryan crocker will serve as ambassador to afghanistan and general john allen will take over general petraeus' command
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in afghanistan. and a lackluster first quarter. gdp growth. a rise in job liz claims sending futures lower despite gains from procter & gamble and others. and syria's ruling party, members resigning. continuing a violent crackdown on protesters there. reports out of the city of daraa suggest growing concerns over food, water and medicine shortages. former president jimmy carter continues his diplomatic visit to north korea today. in a statement carter said that north korea leader kim jong-il expressed his desire to meet directly with south korean president lee myung-bak. such a meeting isn't likely until the north takes responsibility for the violence that killed 50 south koreans last year. two rival palestinian factions, hamas and fatah, have
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signed a unity deal in cairo that ends a five-year dispute. israel's foreign minister was quick to react saying his country will not negotiate with any palestinian government that includes hamas. researchers in san diego say a simple check list may have doctors recognize early signs of autism in children. the study suggests there may be subtle signs of the disorder in children as young as 1-year-old. the work is the first step towards and early autism screening program. back to politics, and the first republican presidential debate is a week away. >> believe it or not. >> greenville, south carolina. former minnesota governor tim pawlenty and ron paul will appear at a tea party rally ahead of the debate that will be headlined by governor haley. >> the candidate called the most libertarian in america, no contest, and the tea party before rick santelli be there? we'll ask now. former new mexico governor who jumped into the race, governor johnson, why are you running as
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a republican? why aren't you running for the nomination of the libertarian party? >> well, chuck, i've been a republican my entire life and got to serve two tern terms as governor of mu mexico in a state that's 2-1 democrat. as republican as they are libertarian, i'm out here in a contest to try and be the spokesperson for the republican party. >> well, i don't have to show you the polls. here's the latest one from gallup. a long list of potential candidates and, sir, you're at the bottom of it. less than 1%. what are you hoping to accomplish here? >> well, i'm in this to actually win the race, and i understand the realities. i accept the realities. you know, i think it's a gar contest, and -- a fair contest and i understand the rights. it is corollary to my running for governor of new mexico where the primary was in june and in february of the same year i was
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at 2% of the republican vote then. so i understand the process. i have no complaints with the process. thanks for having me on your show here, because this might just help out. you know, this might jump it another, i don't know, 1.01%. whos to say? >> governor, the reason i ask, the libertarian question and people that aren't familiar with your background, you're very much a purist as far as when it comes to being a libertarian conservative, and you don't want government involved in any parts of life, whether it has to do with social issues or fiscal issues. you know, the republican party of today is dominated by a lot of social conservatives. how can you sell a program that says, you know what? legalize marijuana, not going to talk about abortion. gay rights, you know, not going to touch any of those issues. this is not a place government should be. how do you sell that to the republican party of south carolina? >> well, this is a contest. i think that i might speak on behalf of half of republicans
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right now. but if you don't give them this option, if you don't give them this checkoff, why, they're going to check off somebody for the rest of world that's going to be the voice ever the republican party, and i am offering an alternative here and i would just -- i never apply labels to myself, chuck. i just don't do it. i think that -- i think perhaps this is very republican and we'll see. i get to, like i say, i'm engaged in this contest and first and foremost this country is bankrupt. i think we're on the verge of a financial collapse and that's in lieu of the fact we have $14 trillion in debt of which we just can't repay given the deficit this year, last year, the year before, years going forward, and i don't put the current administration at fault for that. i think both parties share in that, because when republicans controlled both houses of congress and the presidency, they passed the prescription health care benefit and ran up record deficits at that time, too. it's really a shared responsibility for where we've gotten to. >> quickly, you said in the past
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that every time you pass a law you take a bite out of freedom. what are the top two or three laws you would want to get rid of right away? >> well, when you look at government and what government does, if i could just use education as an example. what would be the best thing that the federal government could do when it comes to education nationwide? i think it would be to abolish the federal department of education, giving states back the ability, 50 laboratories of innovation, something i'll talk about in my campaign, has this country was designed for. 50 laboratories of innovation when it came to education would genuinely come up with best practices. there would, of course, be failure. best practices get emulated, failure avoided. washington knows best, top-down, doesn't work. and the federal government gives the states about 11 cents out of every dollar states spend for education but it comes with 16 cents worth of strings attached. it's really a negative to take
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federal money. don't give the states any money, but do away with the strings and the mandates and you know what? we'd see education improve dramatically in this country. >> all right. former new mexico governor gary johnson. a new republican candidate for president. wanting to have a policy and ideological debate inside the party. good luck to you. we'll be watching. >> thanks for your time, sir. we want to turn now and head back to tuscaloosa, alabama. that city one of the hardest hit in the storms. entire city blocks reduced to rubble there. get to the weather channel's jim cantore live in tuscaloosa this morning. jim, good morning. has are you seeing there? how bad is this damage? >> reporter: savannah, honestly, we haven't been able to get into the worst damage yet. they're still in a full search, recovery and rescue mission here. there could still be many people trapped, believe it or not, in homes, in businesses down the road. this thing coming through probably right around 6:00 last night, reducing this mid-town village area, a couple blocks from the university of al along,
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to complete rubble. i've got to tell you, having seen tornadoes like this before, these are the kinds of tornadoes that being in an interior room just won't cut it. you almost need to be undergroind to survive a tornado like this. this will be a tornado with winds easily over 200 miles an hour. you can see, just at least a half-mile wide area of destruction. look at this cvs store. the roof picked up and thrown off somewhere. the windows instead of being blown out were blown in. they were sucked in as the roof was coming off, to give you an idea of the power of this thing as it was pulling on by. now the bedeath toll continues climb. 213 lost lives. 36 alone in tuscaloosa from what is easily an ef-4 or ef-5 tornado. the kind that makes up probably 1% of all the tornadoes that ever exist out through here. again, this is breaking news and certainly once we can get into
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some of these hardest hit areas with a camera, we'll bring you some of these pictures, but what we're seeing so far from early pictures, it's not good. back to you. >> jim cantore in tuck louiscal we bring in fema director down there surveying the damage, able to survey it from headquarters at fema. director fugate, let's start with the basics. any watching in alabama are looking for help. what do they do? >> right now the governor's team's focus, jim cantore said, still doing search and rescue. biggest thing, shelters open, assistance from red cross and other organizations quartan-a c. president obama last night declared an emergency to free up federal resources and we'll do the assessments this morning to support the governor's request for assistance and get that information in, but right now, focus on live safety and media
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assistance provided by a lot of the vol keir agencies. >> director, we heard our meteorologist bill karins say the storms were historic. from your vantage point, how significant is this damage, and were these storms? >> well, it is very -- this is unfortunately the storm prediction center was indicating that this was the rick yesterday morning. the risk yesterday morning. the amount of damages and loss of life is very significant. you have to go back to the 1974 tornado outbreak to see this type of damage. again, one of these what they call superoutbreak, tremendous impact. not only alabama. mississippi was impacted yesterday as well with loss of life. georgia, other states as far north as virginia. a very widespread area. alabama unfortunately took the brunt of it. again, the focus is on the life-saving operations the governor's team is a are the positiving loce i supporting here today. >> particularly for the middle and southeastern part of the
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country, what are some of 9 basics? we always talk about hurricane preparedness and earthquakes, things like that. we don't talk a lot about tornado preparedness. go through 134 some of those th. >> that's why family disaster plans are important. we don't always know when the next disaster will occur. the tornado, when the warnings are issued, get somewhere safe. again, a lot of homes in the south don't have basements. we tell people, get to an inner room without windows. a closet or a bathroom. get low. cover yourself and your family. if you're in a vehicle, get out of your vehicle and get somewhere low. again, you saw vehicles overturned, one off the highways. homes totally destroyed. i think very telling earlier when the governor talks about, when you've got this big of a tornado, there's not many safe places. unfortunately, we do still see a loss of life, even with the warnings issued. >> fema director craig fugate, appreciate your time on what must be a busy morning for you and your official. thank you for being with us.
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>> thank you. coming up next, that shuffle on the president's national security team. it will be made official today. the defense secretary gates leaving after five years on the job and today the president expected to name cia director leon panetta to the post, big shoes to fill. we'll get that that coming up. first, the white house soup of the day -- chicken tortilla. >> my first day back, mexican theme. thank you. >> i'm sure it's all for you. you're watching "the daily rundown" only on msnbc. this mother's day, why not send her a smile? we'll handcraft an arrangement that is sure to delight. ohh! take our "tote-ally" original, "tote-ally" mom bouquet, a stylish gift that fits her perfectly. let us arrange a smile for you, starting at $29.99.
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announce a revamped national security team today that would, of course, prompted by the retirement of defense secretary robert gates. it will help shape the wars in iraq, afghanistan and libya as
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well as the ongoing war on terror. >> a shuffle, not a shake-up. leon panetta helped take over for gates at the pentagon. in september after completing lis duties in afghanistan, general david petraeus will become a civilian and he will take over at the cia. a couple other moves we'll talk about in a minute. joining us now, the national security correspondent for the "national journal." i want to start with, to me, maybe the biggest "shake-up," change is going to be petraeus out of the battlefield, so to speak, but over at the cia, which, of course harks been potentially the most important part of the battle plan in afghanistan and pakistan, what kind of change is he going to bring to the cia? >> one thing he'll bring is skepticism. it hasn't been mentioned petraeus and the cia have been fighting for yearsing a afghanistan. petraeus saying things are going better. cia saying, going poorly. he'll oversee the same people telling them.
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see if they turn down negativism. more importantly, the campaign of people on the ground, covert, davis, arrested a couple months back. that will be escalated. the drone war more than doned. leon panetta at the pentagon, that's going to expand further. >> panetta, of course, we wrote the story back in early 2009, that with an unconventional choice for cia. since then, i think most consider his tenure would be extremely successful. high profile captures or kills ever al qaeda terrorists. how big of a change to go from cia, by washington standards, a fairly small agency, to the pentagon? >> it's huge. the pentagon not only as you point out sizewise, but following robert gates is going to be tough, even for leon panetta. when robert gates took over after rumsfeld he came in with a huge surge of goodwill. because he was not rumsfeld. he following the most poll lar
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secretary of defense in decades. a duff job. >> gates had the idea for panetta to succeed him and lobbied hard. >> they both have had academic time, served on the hill, both served in the white house, in the cia. >> and a bureaucrat in the best sense of a compliment so talk quickly about the new general taking over in the battlefield in afghanistan, john allen. this change at a time when the withdrawal is, some part of the with drau withdrawal is supposed to begin. does the president have leeway in moving up the withdrawal a little more? petraeus and panetta will want to call for less ops? calls for more troops on the ground? >> i agree. more than anyone else, strategy, they're leaving. gates by his own choice,
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petraeus to prove to the cia. skeptical. wanted a smaller more narrow campaign. now has the power to naught into practice. >> in "the national journal" great piece drezen, it's great have you here. let's do our trivia. which member of congress got his first taste of politics as a boy. remember newspapers? that was chuck's joke. he used to deliver at the state capitol. >> it's congressman, soon to be senator dean heller. congressman hellor to fill the seat of john ensign. hellor comes in, he still has to run in 2012. ♪ got brass in pocket... ♪ gonna use my, my, my, imagination. ♪ the new blackberry playbook. ♪ cos i'm gonna make you see ♪ there's nobody else here, no one like me. ♪ small enough to take anywhere.
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all right. finally did you hear there's a wedding tomorrow? >> there's a wedding? >> it's royal --
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>> i thought all weddings were saturday. i'm confused. >> me, too, but they're unconventional. kate and will will tie the knot -- >> they're not jewish, right? >> i don't believe so. anyway, the we want to give some news. we want you too much the full picture of what's going on in the world. so turns out kate will love and honor will but she will not obey. >> he will obey her. >> she will take a page from her groom's mother's vows. diana didn't say obey either. we have a leak, which we appreciate, chuck. this is the official programme, with an "e." i want a glamour shot like this one. this is part of the program the guests will get. and we've gotten a look. this is probably our last look at kate and will before the big day. they turned up for rehearsals at west m westminster abbey. and there it is.
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the garment bag. is that the dress? what is it? this is where chuck brings up the only designer he knows. >> vera wang. that's all i know. i assume that would be sort of gosh. did i use it correctly? she's not royalty enough, is she? >> vera, we love you. >> could she be doing that? >> i wouldn't turn it away. that's it for "the daily rundown." a reminder early, early, chuck will be up. >> i have to wake up tomorrow. i think my princess needs to watch. >> you're killing me. coming up next, my princess, chris jansing. >> that's right. don't miss andrea mitchell reports and we will see you next week. enjoy the royal wedding. [ kid ] it was the final play.
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south. the death toll is already high and rising. after incredibly powerful twisters leveled buildings and entire neighborhoods. the devstruction is just being realized as beyond massive. one tornado had a path a mile while flattening everything in its path. good morning. i'm chris jansing reporting live from london. of course the royal wedding will be taking place right behind me in westminster abbey less than 20 hours from now. right now i want to toss it to my colleague richard louie in new york with latest on these storms. good morning to you, chris, and thank you. catastrophe unleashed from one of the worst weather outbreaks the southeast has ever seen. this is new video north of atlanta in georgia. at least 200 people are dead across five states with alabama being the hardest hit. hundreds more are injured, trapped or missing at this moment. now, unfortunately, as the sun

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